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22 Apr 2014 18:34:16
Vaz te link, turned into poyet and takeover link, so started a new one.

Poyet was best player in pitch, Wednesday vs charlton, no way he's going to barca next, but would fit in with lee very nicely. No Idea what it would cost. Would have been cheaper if we would have kept all three points and Charlotte gone down.

Who else could we be looking at. Would like nugent but can't see it.

Was only reason we not get fryatt because of cup ties?

Thoughts anyone (especially Ed's)

{Ed040's Note - well I know he's (poyets) not going to barca as they can't make any transfers for 18 months lol. I'd like to see him in an owls shirt and I think he would fit in nicely but I can't see it there's to much premiership interest in him, I can't see nugent leaving the foxes but fryatt could be a fair shout

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Been working in hull today and pulled into petrol station and on newspaper board said city to offer fryatt new deal

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22 Apr 2014 11:57:59
Takeover soon watch this space

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How soon are you talking?

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Not long now

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£££££££soon£££££££

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Where you get this factual information from then if you don't mind me asking.? uto xxx

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22 Apr 2014 16:20:28
mm is sick of us and wants out he going to sell to anyone x

{Ed040's Note - I pretty much doubt it pal if that was the case we'd already be owned by some dodgy Italian or chinese consortium

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22 Apr 2014 05:06:29
vaz te out of contract in summer could this be a signing proven goal scorer in championship. fast and hard woring

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Have seen vaz te, out of contract, would love that to happen.

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Vaz te, poyet ans zakuani would be 3 players i'd try and sign. All free and good enough 4 championship

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Anyone give a punt on mooney leyton orient? uto xxx

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Poyet? What when the likes of Barca, Spurs & City are after him. not a chance, though I wouldn't mind it and his passing percentage is incredible. Besides we'd still have to pay compensation to Charlton as he's under 23. We'd probably get him on a season long loan but not a permanent transfer, he'll be at a big club should he leave Charlton.

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Poyet, as in Gus's son at Carlton? He was best player on pitch in cup game when I saw him.

Would be worth it!

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Newsnow suggests further qatar interest to buy us that came through at 1153am this morning, but when directly going on the site, it goes back to the 3rd of march, so why is it delayed and only come through today.? this wasnt a rumour just more like anyone like ed can you help me in clarification.? uto xxx

I've not seen no new news regarding qatari investors. So not sure why newsnow is reposting old news unless they know something we don't. As an avid wednesday fan I hope it's the latter lol. If I find anything out though I'll be sure to let u know

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Ive seen rumours about poyet but come on can u really see barcelona signing him, doubt it. don't forget most paper talk is rubbish! He's a realistic player we could go for and exactly what we need. There the sort of players we need 2 try and sign if we are going to push on next season!

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Much appreciated, have you visited the news now swfc site and its 2 links down I think you will see, but its back dated some reason, yeh definitely hope its real but just seems like it regurgitated refreshed past rumours then anything genuine! uto xxx

{Ed040's Note - I've said all along I think we'll get taken over before next season but I think the newsnow link is just old posts been refreshed

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Much appreciated ed! uto xxx

{Ed040's Note - no worries mate

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Come on peeps I've told you a million times now. No Takeover!

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20 Apr 2014 19:16:36
Gray wanted by Rosler as his No. 2 at Wigan according to one of the Sundays.

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Can't see Gray wanting to be a number 2 now he has had the taste of being a number 1.

firthparkowl

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Hope next week there is an article saying we want Rosler as DoF.
Can understand why he wants him obviously a superb coach.

When Jones went I wanted Rosler as our manager, really liked what he did at Brentford and has done well at Wigan. Rhink we have caused Wigan as many problems as most of teams when we played them.

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21 Apr 2014 17:02:10
Sorry but Llera should not play again for us he was very poor again Mr C

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Liera hasn't had the best of games lately and has made mistakes but you can't keep putting all the blame on Liera, as Gray says you attack as a team and defend as a team, yesterday he was left exposed time and time again by misplaced passes by his team mates and by our left backs being constantly being caught out of position. Some fools sat near me kept saying he's gone walkabout the trouble was he was pulled out to the left wing to cover for Mattock who was just jogging back into position, Helan got back quicker than Mattock. I will agree that Liera's days at Hillsbro are over but we conceded 4 goals against Watford when Loovans and Gouchy played so our bad defending is not down just to Liera. The central partnership lacks pace and Charlton like Watford have very pacey players who will always expose our defenders. Liera gives everything for our club unlike a lot of players on the pitch yesterday and I would rather have a player who works hard than amore talented player who can't be bothered to put the effort in.

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I agree 1000000% with last poster uto xxx

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I also agree, we've conceded sloppy goals with and without Llera in team.
We are very slow at back apart from Helan.
Whenever we push forward from back we will always get caught on break by sides with that extra bit of pace up front.
Hoping we sign a more mobile CB to partner a big lad CB whoever that is. Loovens is my must sign and then a quicker, busy CB alongside him.

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20 Apr 2014 13:57:14
I understand Crag Cathcart wh is out of cntract with Bolton is interesting us. We will lose probably 3 centre halves at end f season.
Real surprise David Nugent is out of contract to Leicester and Pearson does not believe he will cut it at Premier level (has failed repeatedly at this level previously). We are interested but will have competition.

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Presumably 3 centre halves your are referring to are Taylor, Llera and Gardener.

Would be two decent signings, but would prefer both Loovens and Onyewu over Cathcart.

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Nugent is worth a shot he will score the goals what we need just need cover for Kirkland new midfielder who will work well with lee and a couple of defenders if we can not keep gooch and loovens

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Nugent could be the 20 goal a season striker we need. and Milan could help with Leicester being his old club.

firthparkowl

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I'm assuming this 'Crag Cathcart' of Bolton is the same one as Craig Cathcart of Blackpool?

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18 Apr 2014 22:29:02
The big news is that MM has decided to stay on for another year and build a premier chasing club under Stuart Gray. Funds will be made available for several players who have been under observation since Gray took over and who would be willing to serve under him. Source. a close member of my family who works in the office.

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Wasn't this in an article the other day?

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Takeover will happen why would mm risk telling anyone when there's that much money involved so u blunt fans stop writing on s. w. f. c page what up with u oh ye your in league 1 that says it all

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I am a true owl and have been for over 20 years, surely it would make more sense for milan to keep us and spend a little money and get us promoted we would be worth double imo. Milan I will always be grateful for what you did for us.

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True. No takeover as I've told you all along.

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You may be a true Owl but the point about little money is absurd. MM says already in for close on £30 million which to my mind is not a small amount. To try and compete with clubs coming down who have enormous parachute payments is the way to end up in the mire. The plan to try and grow your own I believe is the best policy and significant strides forward have been made in this area. Accept it can take 10 years but this has been required for some time. Genuinely feel we will see some real benefits in next 18 months.
Key to player recruitment is getting right man in DoF role. Think we have done better of late with players brought in but certainly room for improvement.

It is inevitable MM will hand over reins in not too distant future he his well in his 70's and father time catches up with us all. Hence can only be short to medium term owner at best.

As for the weed who has plagued this site stop writing tripe and spend more time sucking his own big toe like the rest of your bretheren.

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18 Apr 2014 17:43:21
Now we are safe, will be interesting to see is some statements made on here re takeover were true.

Regardless excellent win against current form team in Championship. Onyewu would be a good signing for next year. Hope we can hang on to Louvens and Kirkland as well.
Like Hutchinson but with injury woes and lack of common sense when playing with booking not sure he would be that worthwhile.
Think Lllera, JJ, and Taylor on way out.

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Have to agree. Llera's lack of pace cannot go on another season, jj is a luxury that doesn't produce anywhere near as often and taylor I haven't seen that much off tbh, but there will be a reason why.

With Kirkland, guchi, loovens and lee we have quite a spine, need someone quality up top and that's great news for next season.

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Players wed need to get rid of for next season reda lliera jj coke prutton taylor all loanees

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Gardener surely won't be given another contract good player too injury prone and soon to b 35 must b one of higher earners too

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With reference to the transfers in and out, I agree Llera should go but he deserves to go with our thanks, he may have slowed down and got a bit careless, but over the years he has always put a shift in for us and has scored some valuable and great goals, which for a centre half is great. J. J. is a luxury we cannot really afford so to let him go is common sense, if we bring in another younger player in. Taylor and Gardiner are injury prone and in my opinion both slow and brain dead in the thinking department. Reda on the other hand is worth carrying on with, he is one who gives everything whilst on the park and is Wednesday through and through. Prutton and Coke may be kept for another year just to cover in case of injuries. McCabe and Madine brought back to fight for and earn their places. I would like to see Martinez kept on loan for another year as cover for Kirkland. We are okay for full backs, centre halves should be covered by at least one more purchase. Mid field should cope without much tearing apart, up front is starting to look useful, but Best and Abofe will or should be leaving, so we will require Madine back and at least 2 more goal scorers, obviously Wickham is gone as far as we are concerned, and I think Fryatt will be kept at Hull so we need a proven goalscorer from the lower Premiership or upper championship. The main thing is to get ALL DEALS DONE A. S. A. P. , so they are there all pre season and are up for it at the start of the season. I do trust M. M. and S. G. to do this.

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Gardner brain dead?! You seen him play then? Quality centre half who sadly misses too many games through injury. Reads game fantastically and organises others round him, hardly brain dead!

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11 Apr 2014 07:21:26
Yes of course a Chinese Billionaire is going to buy Sheffield Wednesday. Why would he want to own a super flash Premier league club in the heart of London when he can own a struggling championship club in Sheffield. How many more times guys? No takeover! If I had a pound every time I've informed you that no takeover would be taking place over the last 18 months after each takeover rumour then I'd be a wealthy man by now. We are stuck with Milan it's as simple as that.

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Why would a 76 year old Serbian millionaire want to buy this club outside of premiership, that's not all bells and whistles?
Suppose you were completely sure that wasn't going to happen. Why move from Mayfair up't north where it's all whippit piss and tin baths.
There's still a lot of potential profit in taking this club to premiership, ground and fan base is great and without terrible DJ start, where would we be this season even though we have had 'loan players and no decent signings'.

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If Leeds can only attract a millionaire owner then do you really think that Wednesday could attract an owner with vaster amounts of money than him? Get real guys.

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If you'd have told us every day for 18 months you would have approx £550. 00. I don't think that amount of money would put you in the "wealthy man" league! Plus you don't get anything for posting on here so basically you're just being pessamistic for the sake of it! zzzzzzzzzzzz

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The first post suggests no billioaire would buy a team outside London or Premiership. A statement which is totally wrong.
For MM to say Yu has good pople in tow suggests they have money.
Mandaric has performed remarkably well for this club. Big problem he has had is it had been badly neglected for 10 years. Any sensible person should realise you can not arrest such a decline in short order.
Building blocks are being put in place and steady improvement has been made.
Football played in last few months first time had real hope in years.

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1st poster will get his come uppance one day. Sick of hearing his negative comments. Of course there'll be a takeover one day. its the law of averages. He strikes me as a know it all. A barrack room lawyer we called em in the army. When we're taken over one day he'll find summat else to stir up

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First poster is probably a closet weed or blunt. His comment suggests he has an axe to grind so if not a fan of another team one of those who thought club could be run by a band of msfits on wind and pips.

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I didn't think I would ever hear my self saying this but the above poster is now proving himself correct in all of his posts. He's said all along that no takeover will happen every time we hear of one and he's been 100% right each time. Even when it's stated in national and local news papers that a takeover is imminent he's told us that it will not happen and again he's been proven right. How he knows all this I do not know but I'm now just grateful to read his posts and thank him for keeping us up to date. Cheers mate and keep up the good work.

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Well that settles that then.
The first poster and the last poster are one and the same. nice one LOL

{Ed001's Note - spot on, they are the same person.}

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Really should have names on this. Unless there are two persons posting on here and you're not just the first poster replying to yourself.

Every time I play the lottery I can say I won't wind and be right a lot more than I'm wrong. Also, I wouldn't give two d's about being wrong because I'd have just won the lottery. He is stating the least likely event and regularly and you're giving him credit.

My prediction: world won't end tomorrow, no take over tomorrow and no evidence of aliens to be found either.
Arsecandles!

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What?

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To the poster saying about Leeds didn't the Italian try buying Wednesday b4 Leeds but mm said he would only sell to right people not some Italian tax dodger who will ruin Leeds IMO

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There is defiantly something in this Sammy Yu led consortium, they have been to lots of games this season. We still are not mathematically safe so nothing will happen but a takeover is close. Not sure about this billionaire being part of it though but fingers crossed

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A Death is announced

On Sunday 13th April at around 18:30 the death was announced to the world when a set of tigers savagely attacked and killed off any dreams a set of piggies had.

The piggies (aka Blunts) had no response to the 45 minutes of being torn to pieces and gave up without much of a struggle. Any aspirations of them becoming "Yorkshires No. 1" died at the same time

Their loss will not be missed much!

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To be fair - I thought they put on a good show for Lge1 team against Prem and they gave Hull a scare.

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I have to agree, for a mid table L1 side they did themselves proud, Although I have to add I think Hull thought it was going to be easy peesy and so took them accordingly until half time and the wake up call from bruce. I'm hoping we could get Fryatt off Hull for next season, be a good signing for us.

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Didn't see the second half but United looked by far the better team in the first half. But that was because Hull were absolutely rubbish in the first, our pub team would have given them a run for their money. Don't know if nerves got to them more than United or the way the team was set up but they were awful.

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Agent Fryatt did us proud!

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Alan Biggs was positively gloating at the prospect of Fryatt being priced out of our price range after his goal. He says he is not biased against us but I have never read a complimentary article about us written by him.

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Agreed. Alan Biggs wears his red and white whenever he reports about the lads.
Why he bothers I have no idea - can't the tv send him to somewhere where he would feel amongst friends?

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Credit where its due the blunts did put up a good showing against hull, they did not disgrace the city infact quite the opposite. No moans from me on that display UTO eric the owl

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Nice to see people disagreeing again but if you hate the blunts or not, it dosent change the facts, and if you can't face the truth don't disagree just don't read it carry on reading the Beano - simple UTO eric the owl

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The fact they lost

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The fact they lost

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The fact they put up a good show, if you are a football supporter you should be able to see that don't disgrace your colours with petty hatred, be a man and admit a good showing when you see one. we are the Wednesday - among the finest fans in the world - not stupid people who can't see a good performance when they see one. If you are a football supporter you have little knowledge of the game uto

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08 Apr 2014 16:40:37
I've just got back from working down in London and saw Fred dinenage in the that bloke who ust to be on tv!Well apparently he is good mates with mm and he said that a takeover will be done as soon as we are mathermatily safe sammy yu is the face but the man with the money is a bloke called Wang Jianlin Who owns a lot of hotels in china.

Real owl

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Yeh ok

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Yeh ok, heard it all season. let's wait an see

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Time for season ticket renewals and out come the rumours of a take over again

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He the richest man in china 19 billion he made 2. 6 billion last year just hope it true finger feet legs arms all cross please let it be true milan

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Really get fed up of people using season ticket renewals as a reason for rumours. It makes no sense whatsoever except to someone who has no financial acumen.

Having said that get fed up of repeated baseless rumours.

Personally not seen the name of Wang Jialin linked with us before. The guy who posted never seen him put takeover rumour on here before. I suspect only he knows if this story is accurate.

Jialn is richest man in China and was lnked with £175 million takeover of Southampton in January 2014. Apparently former executive Cortese was lining him to take over fom Liebherr family. He apparently wants to move into football in UK.
This guy could buy who he wanted and personally not sure we would be his choice.
Down to real owl to put more meat on rumour, i. e how he knows Dineage where he met him etc.

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For the record Fred Dineage was director of Portsmouth when Milan Mandaric was Chairman. Hence if Real Owl making it up has done some background work first.

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Fred dinenage is a good friend of mm was on the board at portsmouth with milan so why would't he tell there could be some truth in it?

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If this is the real owl that has posted before, I would think there might just be some think in this, hope so!
and I renewed mine in early bird as I always do and it don't make any difference to me what division or whatever so rumours of big money coming in don't make any difference to us fans.

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09 Apr 2014 08:55:15
Will Blackburn at the weekend say we can play Best against them so he can hinder our chances of winning lol, he's a joke send him back sorry not good enough Mr C

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How?!

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Should Av given madine a few run outs instead of best an afobe. better than loanin him to carlisle

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Couldn't disagree any more.

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Couldn't disagree any more.

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09 Apr 2014 15:10:38
Hope this rumour is true, and he brings us a decent manager as stuart Gray isn't the answer, the blokes tactics are non existent

{Ed040's Note - sg tactics must be ok we've only been moving up since he got the nod and consistency is the key and he's done wonders thus far

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SG's tactics are not existent? What type of cigerettes has this plonker been smoking. SG has spot on for most games but even Alex Ferguson got it wrong sometimes. Perhaps the poster could explain what job he does and why he isn't a football club manager. Or perhaps he is, he could be Sir Alex posting on here to past the time.

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Sg said when we were 3-1 up our game play{tactics] were wrong, so why didn't he change it like a certain manager last night did to good effect

{Ed040's Note - not seen him mention tactics what he said was we lacked experience on the pitch to see the game out

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09 Apr 2014 18:41:21
If MM shared this info with his mate Dineage, it would be in confidence?
He would have the sense and respect for his mate MM not to pass this on to a bloke he just met in a bar in London - wouldn't he?
Somebody has just Wpedia'd MM to find Dineage name and used it to make it half believable!
Like other poster says if you got that much money, why buy us?
He could buy Man United or Arsenal, if they not for sale work down the Prem before starting in Champs?

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Was it SG's poor tactics when we were 3. 1 up against a team that were hoping for a top six finish and before you say they were lacking confidence because they have lost some games, we had lost four games on the trot. No it was the lack of five recognised central defenders that cost us.

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Mm will still be in charge next season no one buying club another summer of promises but next season will be back to usual loan signings

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With regard to SG comments, he hasdome remarkably well in circumstances. If anyone said we would be where are with injuries we have had I personally would not have thought possible.

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Real Owl needs to state more info or admit he made it up. I find it strage a person who had generally made sense with posts would suddenly make up a story.
I genuinely think MM has something on back burner. His attitude and respose to last rumour was way over the top and one possible reason was an outline agreement had already bee reached with another party.
Think point about Dineage not discussing with anybody in a pub is fair although original post was vague about info acquired.
I personally know a friend of Yu's who was aware of earlier interest and told me it had faltered befure it was in papers. I have not heard anything since interest rekindled.

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Sorry m8 not convinced you you know a friend of Yu. Funny how you suddenly pop it in at the end of your post. Don't recollect you comin on here before with this info, before it hit the press last time.

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MM latest statement indicates Yu group are good people and do have money and a deal would be possible. This suggests real money is behind Yu and it is possible Jianlin is the man. Few other mainland chinese have expressed interest in buying football clubs.
MM statement far more optimistic than previous ones and also out of character mentioning Fryatt and indicating investment possible. He has jumped on suggestions in past and indicated will not discuss things until done and dusted.

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Let it be lads and lassies the only people who are in the know regarding take overs and other business matters are M. M. and his co-horts on the board and obviously any other interested party. All we can do is hope that at the end of the day SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY football club emerge from what has been a lean 10 - 15 years stronger and financially stable. It does not matter to most fans who is in charge as long as the Club and staff are safe and all right. I would like the club to have to money to purchase British and European stars but sadly no matter who is in charge of us, no amount of money, in wages, will bring the likes of any of the superstars on either side of the channel or anywhere in Europe or further away until we are in the Premiership. All we can do is support who ever is in charge of finances, players and the club in general and follow to hopefully salvation and sanity. We will emerge eventually but we can only hope it is sooner than later. I am a devoted fan but live in the real world.

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We all live in real world but most that can be said of any post on here is mildy optmistic.

I did mention on here that I knew someone who knew Yu but received many rediculous comments and vowed never to do so again. Like I said have heard nothing recently, before only heard that interest had gone cold. I was not aware of interest prior to it being in papers.

I am in same business as friend of Yu so see fairly regularly.

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Worried about investment from a Chinese hotel owner when, apparently, the Chinese economy is on the brink of meltdown.

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Don't think the size of this guys personal fortune will be too badly affected by the Chinese economy, most of it will be spread around the world anyway.

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07 Apr 2014 18:04:47
I'm not too sure on the Diouf transfer rumour, what do we think?

M1towers

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Stu says Diouf is not for him. Diouf can be a very good player but I would not want him at Hillsborough, causes to many problems on and off the pitch.

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Be surprised if there's any interest at all from us.
More likely its Diouf and his agent touting around to see if anything gives?

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Google Diouf to sheff weds. There is a report on line about it.

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Don't want like him at our club

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Another mm freebies he doesn't like spending, that's how rich stay rich! lol

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08 Apr 2014 14:45:26
Rather have Madine back. At least he doesn't spit and has a future.

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Diouf is past it simple as

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Bring back scott oaks! uto xxx

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31 Mar 2014 19:14:23
My Bullen comments were about his work with the U21s not the Watford game. They seem to have been able to express themselves more while Steve Haslams been on touchline, seen more flashes of individuals ability not been allowed to come out when LB calling the shots?
Agree about Watford game, not a big difference between the teams other than determination, on the day they wanted it more than we did?
Scoreline flattered them a bit?

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The watford game show we need a DoF. Deahan was woeful in interview and explanations sounded woeful. Think he is paper work guy. Bullen is enthusiastic but his comments after games show a lack of tact and dplomacy. Fully agree with above comment a manager can not be judged on his ability to charge around like lunatic on touchline.
Terry Burton to leave Arsenal at end of season would make ideal DoF, enjoys working with young players and still has home in Sheffield.

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Where have you heard Terry Burton leaving arsenal at the end of season?

if so definitely bring him back to s6! uto xxx

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In press couple of weeks ago, said he was upset did not get job to replace Liam Brady has head of Arsenal Academy.

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Well cross our fingers and hope he returns to the massive, that will be a major boost in my opinion if he comes back! uto xxx

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Alfred Mugabo Arsenal youngster who was their top youngster last year played for u/21 team last night.
Shows we are getting good link with Arsenal could be evidence TB heading back our way.

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Tend to agree with TB post - can't see how we would get first pull on this Arsenal kid if its not down to TBs influence.

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For those doubting Terry Burton leaving Arsenal. Just put his name in a search engine and story will be found. Although United fans probably do not want it to be true.

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Lee bullen will be a good manager but he is not ready right now

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Seen nothing from Bullen other than enthusiasm to suggest he has a future in management.
U21s performances and Watford game don't help his CV.
He only got job assisting SG because he was there, SG quick to bring Dixie in so don't think SG rates him highly either.

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05 Apr 2014 15:45:56
Madine just scored

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Brilliant.
Is there a glimmer of hope for a Madine & Lavery strike partnership next season.

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Got to be better than Best.

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Move on Madine is in trouble again and struggles at Championship level.

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That was an old story dragged up again last week. You should move on from knocking him, we don't know if he is good enough to play in the championship he was never given a consistent run in the team and when he did play and scored Jones dropped him for the next game. Likewise with Maguire, Jones signed him but didn't play him for a season and a half. Give Gray a chance to coach Madine, show confidence in him and give him some games then you will have enough evidence to make your tired old comments.

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31 Mar 2014 07:35:04
So there was a loa of Chinese people in the directors box on Saturday and it says in the Sheffield telegraph that Sammy yu is back interested in buying us again. but mm says nothing is near done.

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The fact that MM is even talking about it means he is close to a deal.
With our Champs survival all but sorted, and knowing so many Chinese visitors on the same day would obviously alert press etc, I think that a deal is closer than MM is ready to admit just yet.
He will only come clean when the contracts are drawn and ready for signing.

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MM just doesn't want us disappointed so he is merely keeping us grounded which is the right thing to do, we are not in severe trouble both on the pitch and financially and after 15 years of hell he doesn't want to raise false hope, he seems to be saying that they are interested again but a deal isn't agreed at the moment, him saying a deal is near would be the wrong thing to do thus raising hope to us fans only for it to collapse. I hope these Chinese folk are genuine and not ones who are in it all for themselves or to overspend and leav us in debt. and I hope these are football folk (I know Yu is but what about the rest?) who will make stupid crazy decisions like change our name & colours!

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Lets hope not. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. I think MM will hold out for a better deal. Not convinced they are what we need.

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I am not sure of any type of foreign involvement with a club, but that is just me. The Yanks and the Russians seem to be reasonably suitable but from what I can see Middle East and Far Eastern people do not have the same thoughts on our national game and seem to want to chop and change things at a whim.
All I want is solidarity in the Board Room, Management suite and dressing room.
Could we please have a close season where very early on the contracts are signed and the transfers in and out are done and confirmed.

I would also like to see all the rumours and whispers in relation to the ownership of the club over and done with whichever way it is going to be and we see the entire season through with the same person/s in charge.
I personally would like a solid squad of players, management and directors followed by the best fans in the and we may get off to a great start a consistent middle of season and a fabulous run in with promotion.
Mainly we need stability all round from everyone involved.

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In recolection if yu was the real deal and decent and going to benefit the massive he would of already taken charge by now in my opinion, by all means if he does in future woopee but for now let's stay focus'd prepare for the best but expect the worst then nobody is dissapointed, agree? uto xxx

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No prospective buyer will be interested after that pile of garbage on Saturday!

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It was a poor performance by our reason standards but the seventh post in this string is just silly (I could think of a lot stronger description but I will stick with silly) anybody who made a business decision on one poor performance would not have the money to buy the massive. Successful business people would look beyond that and see the potentional of this great club. Just look at our supporters they are worth more than money.

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. No takeover! Simple as that! I've been telling you all this for the last 12 months, throughout every rumour and even every time the S*n or even the Blah has printed this drivvle. I'll say it one last time. No takeover, no buyout, no new owners.

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You want it not to happen but sorry pal it is & we are the biggest club in yorkshire & will be even bigger after the takeover were all wednesday are't we in milan we trust

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Trust Milan to do what exactly? Had he got rid of Jones when all us real Wednesday fans came on here to express our concerns about Jones 9 months ago we could quite possibly have been in a play off place by the end of the season. Instead of eating humble pie and admitting that he got it wrong by sacking Megson to replace him with the inept Jones he stuck with him in the hope that suddenly Jones would become a good manager. And before you say he rescued us from total oblivion or stopped us going bust I don't believe that for a minute. Loads of clubs are in a far worse financial state than we've ever been in and are still here. Some even in our league I. e Leeds and QPR just to name a few. I agree he's steadied the ship and for that I'm sincerely thankful but we've failed to move on and improve on getting promoted through the side that Megson put together. Milan has come to a dead end, he's not capable of taking us forward so the sooner we are taken over if indeed it's true that Milan actually wants to sell us on the better. After all, if we're not moving forward under his guidance then surely the next step is to start going backwards and we deserve better than that.

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Are you for real? To say we have not moved forward since MM took control is so blinkered as to be untrue. Promoted from League 1, become a mid table Champ team, invested in academy & most importantly no longer on the brink of administration. You state you don't believe he stopped us going bust, so what exactly was our financial state then when he took over? Maybe the Inland Revenue didn't take us to court after all and we all imagined that bit. Good grief, what do you really expect, another Middle East group with billions to waste just so we can get to the Premier league. Its football fans with your opinions that contribute to the uncertainty surrounding football clubs, chasing success too quickly and gambling millions on a quick fix. i'm more than happy for MM to stay at our club, other investors will just be wanting to make a profit, so even if the plough loads in they will want more out in return. MM has been a staedying influence & I for one am happy with that.

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What rubbish. To say Milan has steadied the ship is laughable. We're in his words losing 5 million a year. If that's how he runs a business what chance have we got under his guidance? In day to day life he'd be shown the door if he was responsible for a companies finances. Then, just to show how well he chairs a company he let's his manager build a team that gets us promoted and what does he do? He sacks that very manager. He then goes even further and employs a manager who is sacked from every other club that's employed him and sticks with that manager after seeing him buy players that didn't improve the team in the slightest. Not only did he back that managers judgement in the transfer market he also stood by and watched on as he played the new signings out of position or simply didn't play them at all. While this was happening our clubs fans were simply being ignored by the chairman when we voiced our opinions that he'd got it wrong by keeping the manager employed and we wanted a manager who could turn things around tactically and play the players in there favored position and get the players back together as a unit and get the fans back on side. A manager that would improve the displays on the pitch and improve the results. Finally after months of standing by his chosen manager even he saw the light and knew that he had to admit that he'd got it wrong and had to axe his chosen one. Thankfully we've now got a manager that's giving his all for this club even though Milan messed him about for 2 months not letting him know where he stood with regards to the job becoming his. Thankfully the new manager didn't walk away or get poached before Milan acted. Oh yes, just one more thing, where are all the players that Milan told us we were in the market for? Saying publicly how we are going to sign players in almost every position on the field only for them hardly ever to happen. Was it just to butter us up and keep us sweet? The sooner he's gone the better. We need to kick on and move forward not stagnate and slip back to where we came from which is where we'll end up if he continues to be involved.

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I have read stupid rants on here before but that takes the biscuit. Just answer one question if Milan goes, who is going to invest in our club, I have not seen many investors been beating on our doors down to take us over.

Get real, Leeds are losing £12m a year and used the tax money to pay last months wages. QPR are, depending on who you believe between £70 and £110m in debt. QPR are only in business because they have a backer with money than sense. There are very few clubs in this league or any other English league that are making money.

Milan has built very successful business and is a multi millionaire tell us all how good a businessman you are and how many millions you have made and then we might take your silly remarks seriously.

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To all you fans that know better than MM, re ought to have got rid of DJ sooner etc. How many wanted Ian Holloway and not Stuart Grey?

Yes folks we could now have been in Millwall's predicament. Well done MM for making that appointment in spite of opposition from some fans.

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More money than sense? Tell that to Roman Abramovic who's also got more money than sense but under his ownership have won every domestic cup going on numerous occasions as well as the champions league. Don't get me wrong, I thought that was the sole intention of owning a football club, to achieve and win things. Or is that just other clubs? Maybe in Milans case it's just a status thing. Maybe that's why in your words no investors have taken over! Think about it!

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Well said pal he mad megson would't have got us up it was a good move by milan to get jones in at that time

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I, for one, just want The Owls to be a success both on and off the field. M. M. has without doubt saved us from a financial mess which may or may not have taken us years to clear up. Portsmouth, Leeds United in England, Hearts in Scotland are teams who jumped towards the moon only to fall flat back to earth and are now suffering. We the fans would love to be in the Premiership and challenging for trophies here and abroad but unless we have the patience of the likes of Southampton we will never be there by throwing good money after bad. We have to have a solid financial base, which hopefully M. M. is trying to achieve before we advance and survive. All we need, as I have said before, is solidarity, honesty, openness and trust within the club and supporters. let's us hope the close season comes and during it we sort all our troubles out early on and are up and running with the right management, directorships and playing staff and fans all pulling in the same, right direction towards a bright future.

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Milan should have climbed in to the same car as Dave Jones and both left together. Two blokes who have done severe damage to this once great club. Gary Megson and Stuart Grey are the only people who can hold there heads high. Cheers fellas.

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02 Apr 2014 04:59:24
I can't believe what I am reading, talk about short memories. Milan as done wonders for this club. We would probably gone into administration and in league 2 without his intervention. Yeah he made some mistakes but he also got a lot right, we now a mid table secure championship club within 3 years. Potential to go top 6 next year, if we continued the progress under gray and gained promotion to premier next season would you still be moaning about Milan?

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Yes I would!

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Some of the negatve comments are not from true Wednesday fans.
They are a tiny minority who were upset they could not have a fans run Wenesday in which they hoped to be a big cheese. In reality they live in a Walter Mitty world and fail to accept fundamental truths.
Good example is preoccupation with Megson. Firstly I was one of those who wanted him as coach. However althugh he has talent as a coach Ihave since learned his demeanour and personality do not make him a suitable manager. To those that doubt this ask yourself why he is unemployed an does not get offer of work. His contract with Owls would have expired at end of last season so no rubbish about still being paid by us.

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To Walter Mitty poster.
It is possible to have an alternative view to yours without being part of a KGB conspiracy to wrestle the club from MM and reappoint Megson.
Not an expert but my understanding was that the fans interest 4-5yrs ago was to get the club out of the then owners hands, for that reason only, there was no long term ambition.
Nobody is perfect including MM, GM, DJ, and yes even SG although he's pretty close at the moment.
To end Megson will get another job, I guess when the right one comes along.
Like anybody else he will wait for a job that appeals, I'm guessing he won't be on breadline yet.

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To the poster who wanted MM to leave in the same car as DJ. What kind of total person are you. MM has made no secret of his desire to leave but has to find a suitable buyer first or do you just want him to walk off and lock the gates on Leepings Lane & Pensitone Road on his way out!

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An owner of a club that doesn't want it? Proves my point exactly! It's all a status thing!

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Wouldn't say status thing its obviously his hobby fixing things that are broken. Fair play to the man we would be in blunts position without him.

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He doesn't want the club? And that's the owner speaking is it? Well if his hearts not even in it then how can he expect us to feel confident? We're done for!

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As far as I can see and read, MM has never said he doesn't want the club, in fact just the opposite, what he has said is that if anybody can take over the club and take it further that he can then he will gladly stand aside but until that day he will continue to run the club in the best interest of the fans.

The question I keep asking myself is why don't the silly posters who are lambasting MM on here put their money up to buy the club. I am sure that with the the brains they display on here they must be millionaires. But having read their posts again perhaps not.

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You wouldn't need to be a millionaire to compete with Milan in the transfer market. If it's not free or given to him he doesn't sign it. Why do you think his signings have been so poor during his guidance?

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Am I allowed to bring a balloon to the games?

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Only if its a guide balloon.

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22 Mar 2014 07:59:31
Lavery signs long term deal that's grate news! Know we just need to get loovens and Onyewu and kirkland signed up then I think we will have a grate season next term I've also hered that reda Johnson is of to millwall at end of season. as for today those of us that are going today let's make some noise like we always do for the boys in blue.

Real owl

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Donny are our bogie team but we was the better side couldn't put our chances away tho. Put today behind us keep up the support lads, good turnout at Leicester although were in tv will be a big boost get behind the boys!!

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After Palmer & Lavery proving they have the potential to be Hillsborough Legends, does anyone know who the next best talent from the development squad is?

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Some strange decisions yesterday (again) thought Brown was offside and so did the fans near me and Stuart Gray. If we can see it why can't the officials get it right. Still at least we didn't have Marriner in charge.

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Palmer signs 4 year deal uto xxx

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Mcabe and madine out so anyone in before the window closes? owls about this?

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I don't know what is current situation is but do you reckon we could loan David Bentley last I saw he was still in Tottenham reserves

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Hes rubbish

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Decent passer of the ball tho

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Bentley is unattached so we could still sign him, yes a good passer and crosser but always had a problem with his attitude though. Good player but we don't need him

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Can Bentley play in defence, we are miles away from play off material

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Bentley has had loadsa chances. Good player at times but generally a wasta space. don't need him, bad influence

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Are you hoping for playoffs this season?

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Some were a few weeks ago, can't you remember, or is this the 1st time you have been on here

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Well the concept of us being in the playoffs at this stage is so surreal that I wasn't sure if I had dreamed it.

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Nothing like getting carried away, we not even safe from relegation yet and to even mention playoffs is fantasy football talk.
SG has done absolute miracles, so much that he's also built up false expectations with some fans who don't look beyond results.
SG needs a big leg up with some quality players brought in during close season otherwise MM is asking him to do miracles again, which is unfair.
Our team and squad are nowhere near strong enough to compete for a 50game season, and a big clear out and strengthening of squad is desperately needed.
My worry is that won't happen with MMs money, we get off to yet another poor start, and we then face another slog through the season.
It would be nice to be a mid-table team for a change.

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21 Mar 2014 16:12:12
Madine to start tomorrow

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Not according to the Stu Miester, he says he doesn't want to push him and he would not be included this weekend.

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Wouldn't mind see him on the bench, we could loose Best at 24 hr's notice says Stuart so having a fit Madine would be a plus.

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Big win tomorrow. 0-4

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I'd simply take a win!

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Doubt he'll start but would like to see him as sub and I'm hoping 3-1 (cos that's what my bet slip says lol)

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23 Mar 2014 06:27:26
Things seemed to have changed from being carp at home to good on the road to the opposite.

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Sounds fishy to me!

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The comedians on here are the best!

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20 Mar 2014 06:42:00
With regards to the slating Gary Megsons style of football, its a results business so whatever style works is obviously the right style. I remember a few years ago Wimbledon only using big strong players, using strong arm tactics, out bullying the opposition and hoofing it up field. This style won them promotion after promotion all the way to the premier league plus winning the FA cup against the then mighty Liverpool. I just want us to win every game and I don't care how we do it.

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What about enjoying the game with nice football playing? As we r doing now, SG has coached the players to play good football and winning too! (NDS)

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20 Mar 2014 12:56:16
I enjoy the game as long as Wednesday win, which ever way we play to do I don't really care.

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Megsons gone get over it. He did put pride and fight into players and showed them what playing for swfc was all about but he's gone now. Everyone keeps saying its a results business and that performance doesn't matter which is true to a degree but our performances were becoming an issue due to the fact results were going against us. LET IT GO!

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Here here. I notice other managerless clubs haven't exactly bust a gut to employ megson. Oh an don't say its because we're still payin him because we're not!

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How do you know where not? Also agree we should let it go give gray our full attention he's a miracle worker and I for 1 hope he's here a while

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Pretty football doesn't mean you win games. Win games at all costs is what football is about. Swansea play pretty football in the Premier league but are struggling. I don't care how we play if it means promotion.

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Work it out itself. He only had a 2 an half yr deal an was sacked 28 feb 2012

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I think we should get Megson back and start hoofin the ball all over the shop again.

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Yes bring him back for another promotion! Here Here!

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I cannot believe I'm still hearing this megson nonsense. Megson would not of got us promoted automatically and deep down every owl knows it! Yeah he's an owl and that's great but their is no way he would of got automatic like jones did with the points tally we finished with the games remaining!

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I went to my first game at S6 to watch Wednesday in 1955 I was 7 years old and have supported our great club ever since. I have seen some great players over the years Mccalliog - Fantham Bronco Layne Don Megson to name just a few - but they are all in the past now - its nice to keep the memories but we have moved on, and we must keep on moving forward we cannot live on past glories. These people being mentioned are not with us anymore, we have the makings of a very good team now, so forget what has been and look forward to what will be. I am certain we will make it back into the top flight in the not too distant future so just enjoy the trip UTO eric the owl

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You can't say he wouldn't have got us automatic promotion not with any real conviction anyway

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I went to my first owls game the same year Eric. Great memories but that I think you'll agree you can't really compare too closely players from different eras. There are many reasons why. My all time hero was Ron Springett, but how would he have cpoed with todays lightweight balls that swerve all over the place. Or how would todays players cope with the old leather canonballs. Uto. mik

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To the poster who says we would not have gained promotion under Megson, really! Are you phychic? In my opinion it was Ched Evans getting locked up that got us automatic promotion NOT Dave Jones. If the United forward had not been put away United would have won promotion regardless of who was in charge of the massive.

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Are YOU psychic about Evans?

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I agree about Chedward being the key factor.

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Im not phychic about Ched that's why I stated it was my opinion. What I did not do is state catagorically that, that was the reason as the other poster seemed to say when he said Megson would not have got us promotion.

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Gentlemen can we put this to bed please with this balanced summary. Megson did a great job turning us around but I think it is beyond doubt that dj got a better tune out of the team than gm, just look at the run he took us on at the end of the season. However that run may have been in vain if ched was not sent down. But overall they both deserve massive credit in their part to our promotion. But they have both gone and we now have a miracle worker in sg so let's keep supporting him and the team and stop arguing about the past.

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Totally agree with you mik Ron was a great goalie and no you can't really compare players from different eras. Colin Dobson was one of my great favourites - what a player he was - great memories mik and we've been privaliged to have seen some great players in blue and white UTO eric the owl

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17 Mar 2014 16:56:07
McCabe signs for Portsmouth for the rest of the season, a good move all round and he'll be back a better player!

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Whens this come out then?

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Fantastic move all round. Good luck to him and I'm sure he'll be a great addition for them. Well done to him for wanting to go and get games. I feel for the first time ever that the loan system is working for us this last couple of seasons. The loan system even got us money for O'Grady where in years gone by we would've just released him for nothing. Its great to see

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Well Rhys it is up to you now, go away and play your heart out and come back a much better player with experience.
Your examples should be Palmer, Prutton, Coke and McGuire all of whom returned better players from their experiences.
I for one hope you go and make a success as I have supported you and made a good case for your future with the Wednesday.
BEST OF LUCK PAL.

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Coke a better player? Nah sorry m8 don't think so

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Prutton? He's 32yo and had 7/8 clubs how is he an example of a kid gaining experience on loan?

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To above poster, Prutton went out on loan to Scunthorpe I think the previous poster meant, but to be honest I think Prutton and Coke shouldn't have been given new contracts. McCabe has time on his side and potential, let's hope like previous poster said it kick starts his Hillsboro career MG Rawmarsh Owl

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Don't forget Lavery. Massive improvement!

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Coke has bin with about 6 clubs at a young age. He has ability but very rarely shows it. He will never get any better, same as " wonder boy JJ ". Get rid asap

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McCabe put in some battling performances early on in his career with us, but then faded for me. I expect Prutton & Coke to go this summer but even with that I think McCabe is going to be well down the pecking order with Palmer, Lee, Semedo, others who can fill in like McGuire and possible new signing/s in the summer. I'd be happy for Hutchinson to come back on a seasons loan and play midfield. Need to get Loovens & Guchi signed up ASAP

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Faded does that mean not been given a consistant opportunity to prove himself? uto xxx

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Stuart Gray has given all the players a chance to prove themselves and get in the team.
The fact that McCabe hasn't had his chance leaves me confident that he isn't up to the job - at this time.
Hopefully regular football at a lower level can help McCabe to recover some form and progress.

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Time for gray to move reda on has too many injuries gives too many free kicks away helan much better and faster

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Nah keep reda he's a rock!

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Totally disagree. keep reda and get rid of helan. reda is a strong solid left back who is a huge threat from set pieces. out of 10 games helan wil play well in 2.

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Rock move quicker than Reda

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Why can't we keep reda and helen both useful in different ways both add expereience and venom to the team! uto xxx

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15 Mar 2014 18:47:19
A question to the MM doubters.

Name a time/season when MM has failed whilst been swfc chairman?

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Keeping Dave Jones 12 months too long. that's a year of damage MM did to Wednesday. Want more?

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Not an MM doubter at all, but I do have some concerns.
In the 2 1/2 seasons so far - he never has yet let us down.
BUT he has to EITHER find an investor, OR invest himself VERY SOON, or he will start to fail the club and the supporters.
I have no complaint with MM and would be more than happy for him to stay.
But we do NEED to invest, slowly if necessary, in better quality players on the books to make our stay in the Champs easier to maintain than what it has been so far.
I am not as critical as some about the use of loan players, I think it will be a necessary and growing part of the game below Prem level.
BUT we have to have our own 1st team players on contract, and then use the loan system to cover for injuries etc.
To be relying on loans as we are at mo to fill KEY parts of team e. g. : both CBs, CFs, CMFs, is not an acceptable way to plan for the future? In fact you can't plan for the future if your players can be called back to their parent clubs at short notice.

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He showed faith in DJ to turn it round and stay up which we did. It was the first season back and mm said steady progression from day 1. This season when things looked like they wasn't going to turn round he acted. He also was patient enough with his decision on sg and gave him the respect he deserved because if he'd have rushed his decision to appoint him straight away he would've only give him till end of season and he would've been slated for going for the cheap option. Instead he took his time making sure it was right, gave him a good contract and almost made it a fans choice. Fantastic chairmanship. Go on give me more!

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He sacked Megson to replace him with Dave Jones! Could he have done anything worse?

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I appreciate what megson did for the club but a lot of fans were starting to get frustrated with megsons tactics and our results were slipping away although we beat united but mm had already made his mind up. Like it or not we won promotion with DJ as manager yes that's won promotion which takes me back to my first post. Name a time when he's failed? BTW I am getting a lot of agrees with my comments

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If we just record things accurately, winning promotion was not down to MM. Just the opposite really, Megson put a side together on a shoestring which turned things around, got results, and went in to playoff positions - all thanks to Megsons tactics
Its a matter of record now that MM and Megson -fell out- because Megson wanted more support from MM to get his/our team promoted but MM denied him that.
DJ came in and with a little extra support with some more loan signings, we got automatic promotion. But that was more to do with the fact that Utd failed to get a win in their last 5games, crashed and burned, than anything MM or DJ did, otherwise we would have been in playoffs which was almost guaranteed.
Just makes me laugh how our ungrateful fans keep referring to "Megsons tactics" in derogatory terms?
He was only allowed to sign cast-offs from Lge2 at best, and then takes criticism for not playing like Barca! even though he took us in to playoffs and made Hillsboro a feared place for visitors for first time in decades.
Our fans should do their research, Megson was criticised by some West Brom fans for playing "pretty" football when he got them promoted in to Prem for the 2nd time.
His tactics also saved Bolton from what everyone thought was certain relegation when he took over, and then took them in to Europe.
Megson would have been successful at S6 if he had been backed because he has proved he has the ability and he is as much, if not more of an Owl, as any of our disrespectful supporters.

{Ed001's Note - Megson was never accused of playing pretty football, that was Tony Mowbray. Megson has been accused of many things, but never of playing good football, or of being a good manager, by anyone outside of Sheffield. Stockport can trace back their financial difficulties to his management, when he followed on Jones there. First thing he did was call in a bunch of players, many he had never even seen play, including my cousin, and give them a long term contract on a much higher wage than they were previously on. Most of those players he never even gave a game to, including my cousin, and never watched them play to know if they should have had a chance or not anyway. Megson has always played percentage football, not pretty football, but it can be effective, when done correctly.}

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Haha well done Ed. Firstly I said I appreciated what megson did and that it was some fans getting frustrated with his tactics and I pointed out that results were starting to go against us which they were (other than united match). You've just said that it was anything but mm that got us promoted in fact you said it was the opposite. So if it was nothing to do with mm getting promoted how the hell can you slag him off every week for been at the bottom? Haha plonker!

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To Ed001: I'm amazed you saw fit to add such a lengthy appraisal of my post when we read some of the insulting rubbish that gets through unchallenged!
I don't suppose that's got anything to do with the way your cousin was treated because that would smack of bias on the pert of the Editorial staff?
I stand by my post and there are far more "inaccurate" - if that's how YOU see it - get on this site every day of the week without a hint of editorial interference?
I hope you have the same integrity and wish to see "just posts" and honesty to post this response.

{Ed001's Note - I don't have anything to do with my cousin, just know what happened. He was in the youth team, Jones called him up to the first team to cover when Stockie had the cup runs. After Jones left, Megson came in and called him into the office, before they had even had a training session or anything. Gave him an extended contract on higher wages, then never spoke to him again or watched him train with the kids or play.
As for the rest, you are just ignorant, you have no idea who is dealing with most of the posts, so why are you whining about me replying to one I happened to deal with? Could it be because I pointed out that you were wrong about Megson's rep? He was hated in Bolton, Stockport and West Bromwich as a negative longball merchant. Considering the Bolton fans had previously been happy with Sam Allardyce's hoof ball style, it says a lot about Megson.
As for integrity and honesty, grow up! I will edit and reply to what I want, and you can just grow a pair and try admitting you were wrong or whine like a five year old, but I don't care either way. You are just making yourself look a complete tool with this post. It is embarrassing to try and make such an issue out of a reply, purely because you can't take being wrong. Sad.}

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IF there is a heart beating in the FA they will rescind Lavery's booking for showing some compassion towards him mum and her breast cancer.

We all wish her well

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To Ed001: Thanks for having the integrity to publish my response.
I too have family interests who were involved at West Brom at the time so I have to endorse my original post as factual in that respect at least.
Megson was canvassed strongly at West Brom, and in the Local Press, to change his style to avoid relegation "again".
His record at Bolton can stand scrutiny.
Football is about opinions, yours and mine are different but both based on true experiences we would both say.
The difference between us is I never personally insulted you "publicly"! Which surely is an abuse of your position.
I would be grateful if you can maintain the same level of integrity and publish this post too. Thank you.

{Ed001's Note - to change it yes, because they preferred the pretty football of Mowbray. Last post on it, because your bull about honesty and integrity is annoying. It is ridiculous to consider you repeating yourself over and over should get posted just because you put that crap on the bottom. It will get deleted because there is nothing else to add, not because of any lack of integrity, just lack of interest.}

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Ed 001: Personal message? -
Like I said its about opinions.
My cousin played under Megson at West Brom in two promotion winning sides and still rates him as the best man manager he played under, and he played for a number of well known managers.
I said nothing wrong, or insulting to anyone.
I can only assume I caught you on a bad Monday morning? - we all have them!
I welcome your decision to delete the thread - as soon as is practical for my part.

{Ed001's Note - you are missing the point, I was never referring to his man management, but his club management. Also his lack of any attempt to show interest in the youth team, which was Stockport's main asset is a major failing when funds are tight. As for man management, my cousin only met him once, so he had no opinion of his skills in that area, he just found it odd that he was given an extended contract on much higher wages by a man who had never seen him play and then never bothered to watch him play. He had expected to be moved on when called into the office, as he was just a kid and had only made a handful of appearances.
By the way, it is very insulting to be accused of lacking integrity and honesty, so I think you are also missing that point too when you say you said nothing wrong or insulting. I don't always edit the Wednesday site, I was just filling in this morning and saw your post and just pointed out that Megson's failings were his lack of pretty football. It was the same at Bolton. Though it must be said that none of the fans would have cared if his results were not so poor as well.
As for bad Monday morning, no actually, just a rushed one, normally I would reread my replies a number of times to make sure they come across in the manner intended. Today I was distracted and just typed it up and posted it, without reading it back to make sure it was not too harsh. It is very difficult to convey correct meanings online in a quick reply.}

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Ed 001: Not for posting, just for your info.

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, read and deleted as you asked. Oh and, before I forget, like I did on the last post, apologies for any harshness, it was not intended.}

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Likewise Ed001, and thanks for not posting the previous! lol

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, we get a lot of those kind of messages. Can be frustrating not being able to share titbits, but you have to abide by the wishes of the person telling you. Last thing we want is them falling out with friends or family over something they have told us.}

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Before you two had your lovers tiff and to add two penneth in: I remember a GM interview saying he'd love to play passing football like Barcelona, but he didn't have the squad.

People hated the man, I think Forrest say he's their worst manager ever, but he's remembered fondly with us because of his results not the football. Plus folk always like a manager that falls out with chairman in the interests of the club.

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Many fans realise that Megson has a manager has severe limitations. I wanted him as manager but realise MM was correct in his actions. If he is such a good manager why is he not in work.

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Megson still a better manager than dave Jones, nd you can split hairs as much as you like but it was megsons team that got promoted

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Megson's team but Jones's management. Automatic promotion wouldn't have happened under Megson.
I am a fan of Megson but the truth is without the managerial change we wouldn't have gone up.

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Megson gave us some pride and something to be excited about for the first time in years. Whether you agree with his style of play is irrelevant. It worked! It's a results business.

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He wasn't getting results and had lost the respect of the players, but apart from that, he was great.

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The megson and DJ debate is irrelevant now even though I'm sure they both tried their best for the club whilst they were in charge. Its all about SG now and the fantastic job he's doing. let's not forget my original post was about mm hasn't failed once yet as swfc chairman and its looking to be the case again and long may it continue. Remember steady progress! UTO

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19 Mar 2014 18:58:17
Stuart Gray's elevation is clearly a success borne out by the comparison of his stats against 'Big Dave's'.

SG
W10 D4 L6 F28 A15, Win% =50. 0, Pts %=56. 7

DJ
W1 D8 L7 F18 A27, Win% = 6. 3, Pts % = 22. 9

Goals For/Against per game
SG 1. 40 v 0. 75,
DJ 1. 13 v 1. 69.

A slight increase in goals scored per game but a reduction of about a goal a game conceded.

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Old thread now, guess nobody will read this, but Ched going to prison got us promoted. I don't think GM or DJ would have made that much difference between 3rd or second.

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15 Mar 2014 08:47:16
Milan has made a statement that talks with the Qatari group have ended without agreement and that there will be no deal with them.
Really disappointing, but it does at indicate to some of the scoffers that there was at least some substance to the story that broke a couple of weeks ago.
Hopefully the search goes on, the Qataris may even have been used to force the hand of one of the other alleged interested parties?

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Where did you read this?

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Where can we find this interview?

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It's just Milan putting closure to something that was never real in the first place. He'll leak another FGR soon when things have been stale for a while. I'll give it a month at the most!

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If you really believe the Quatari one you'll believe anything.

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Sheffield Telegraph - why ask just Google?

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15 Mar 2014 18:33:19
Wingers anything to say, what more do you need, we will be safe no problem

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To the 4th poster, why don't you buy the club and spend all your savings on moving us forward?

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16 Mar 2014 09:34:58
I think wingers are useful if we are playing Nuhiu or another target man up front. However wingers are less essential if we play Maguire and Lavery up top.

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I share your thoughts about wingers, exactly.

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I did google but didn't find anything recent. I thought i'd check on the star web site and there it was. it was a simple question no need for the arsey response. I think MM is doing a great job and will only start to criticise him when I am prepared to put in more money than him. He's made the club easy to purchase and the playing staff is much improved since he took over (just hours before administration by the way). I want him to take his time and select the correct buyer otherwise we could be in major trouble in the future like many other clubs. We are currently in safe hands and since Grey took over in playoff form, I don't see why people are so critical. I certainly don't see why people think MM is starting these rumours.

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12 Mar 2014 15:39:37
Madine played 60 mins for u21 he looked good and scored

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Worked hard and set up the first three goals as well as scoring, when he went off we lost our attacking threat. Jack Stobbs was outstanding on the right wing and looks a great prospect, very quick and tricky, terrific crosser of a ball.

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What was there to disagree with from original post? And to above post ye he looked sharp again and hungry let's hope he gets some 1st team action soon and finds his league 1 form

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Thanks for the update jack. Let us know if anyone else played.

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Ur welcome bob nd they where 20 others on pitch but can't remember there names lol

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That's 2 shots on target in 2 games, rubbish

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Having seen the refs performance last night I have to question his integrity. He gives a penalty but doesn't send off the Wigan keeper when even Rossler thought he would be sent off. He then gives Wigan a penalty when there is minimal contact and a theatrical dive. But to cap it all as soon as he gives the penalty to them he gives the Wigan players the thumbs up sign and is smiling at them (watch it on Sky).

I have seen some poor refereeing over the past few years but last night it looked more than just an incompetent referee. He was a disgrace and that is reflected in all the press reports this morning. Rob Staton says it was the worse performance he has seen

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Thanx to all the haters but I told you I was right about best

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Agree with above comments two games and two shots i'm sorry but its not good enough sg is trying to go out in games for a draw and is getting the results that deserves, and as I have said before on here best and the young arsenal lad are not the answer get rid and bring anoher good striker in for the money they are paying these two Mr C

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Could'nt agree more, would like to see Madine hopefully feature on Saturday if he is ready, now he has served his time and now has a clear head, hoefully he'll recapture his L1 form and hopefully SG will give him the chance that Maguire has had and taken! Best & Afobe are not good enough for me!

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I'm don't think that Best is the answer, he couldn't get into the Blackburn team but don't just knock the strikers they can't score if they are not getting the service from midfield. Since Semedo and Lee have been out we have created very little. On top of that we have lost Antonio who was beginning to find his form when he got injured, Helan has not been like the player he looked last season and he has been used lately as a full back and now Magoma is out with ligament damage. We have a very small squad and now have nine players who would be in the first team squad out injured. I just we get enough points to be save this season.

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We know Best isn't the answer, he's on loan. So is Afobe. So are a few more.
They are here mainly because we have about a dozen of our own players in treatment room, and the likes of ManU, Barca, PSG weren't rushing to let us have any of their first team squad for nowt.
All the loan players are here because we haven't got the answer, even with all our squad fit, and we can't afford to buy the answer, and won't be able to for a while yet.
So until we are in a position to do something about it, try living in the real world, instead of pointing out that our players aren't perfect and they make mistakes, we all know that!

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If we know they not answer pal (best and afobe) why loan them in 1st place? Yes granted we are a small club with loads of injuries but surely they were better loan players available

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Lol u all make me laugh when I posted I thought best was rubbish and sg made a mistake with him I got slated on here and the comment didn't get 1 agree but now look at you all. #lovebeenright

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Must have been better available?
So now your assessment of the situation goes something like - we could have got about a dozen better forwards than Best and Afobe - for our budget?
But we said NO we don't want any of them, they too good for us, we'll just have Best and Afobe, they'll do for us!
Why do some fans think if we not scoring its the forwards, and if the forward is getting the goals its all down to him?
Football is a TEAM game, for the forwards to be converting chances, the team have to create them.
The biggest problem with our team in recent weeks has been the loss of Lee and Semmy in the space of about a week. They were making us tick and confidence was growing, then they both got injured and the heart was ripped out.
Thats why we've fallen down in last few matches
I do wonder if some posters have ever played football?

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No that's not my assessment of the situation I'm clearly stating I knew best was rhubarb and did we even look past him for loans or was it just a panic loan as we were short on players because that's what it looked like to me so there's no need for sarcasm

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Leon Best just extended his loan to end of season.
I think if we can start to get a settled side (midfield especially) together, hopefully with less injuries, that Leon Best will make an impact for us before end of season.
Despite what some think he has ability at this level, backed up by the fact that people IN the game have spent big money to get him in their squad.

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@#lovebeenright surely a real supporter would love to be wrong about a player not been good enough? Or maybe that's just me!

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Well said! - its not just you, I think it s just him!

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Best till end of season lol Mr C

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I Am a TRUE owl but not a best fan and I'm glad I was right just because of the stick I got on here over my original post and what impact as he had after big money transfers, NONE is the answer to that so all I can say is he got a dam good agent

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You keep saying you are right?
Based on what?
Less than half dozen games for a new club, when he is still getting fit, in a side that's changing every game because of injuries and suspensions?
Surely we should wait until end of season before you start awarding yourself gongs?

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Looks like league one next season then. Oh by the way, I'm still waiting for the press conference.

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I posted 1st comments about been rite

{Ed003's Note - I couldnt understand a word of that could you not use 'text talk' please.}

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Were taking loans on of people who are out of contract at the end of the season so this is a trial for them. Best scored again so don't write him off yet.

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11 Mar 2014 07:59:36
Anybody know what's the latest on the takeover becouse I've not here'd anything for ages, I was under the impression that from ssn and this site that something would be done by know. I find it a bit strange how Charlton Sheff united get taken over in days but ours goes on and on. ,

Real owl

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According to MM its all a load of bull

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Utd not taken over, they had an investor come on to board, Macabe still there, and if you not read what's happening at your own club don't know how you know all about Charlton.
The takeover will happen when it happens, Milan made it clear we won't get to know anything from him till deals almost done.

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I was as excited by this news as anyone but sadly have come to the conclusion now that it was just an agent trying to further his career/name. we can't blame Milan for his so called "feel good rumours" as he flat out denied it.

Just need to get our heads down and guarantee survival this season.

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Mm did not just said the agents was upsetting the club & fans make of it wot u will sound like mm want to keep it Quiet so he can tell everyone

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To the original poster, takeovers do not happen in just a matter of days, it's just that official news only gets released a couple of days before they complete. Multi million pound deals will be tied up in confidentiality and exclusivity clauses so that they do not become part of public debate.

N.B

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Come on guys you should know by now that there never was a takeover in the pipeline. It's just more of MM's feel good rumors. It's his way of trying to convince the supporters that good things are heading our way. Then when eventually someone does come along in the hope of purchasing the club and a takeover is completed he says "look what I've done for you". He did it at Leicester, kept leaking his feel good rumors then when a takeover did eventually happen he stood back and took the plaudits.

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I see Connor "the traitor" Wickham is bursting the net with Dweebs!

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Come on how can you call Connor Wickham a traitor. He was never our player and he was not in a position to choose which club he went to. Sunderland told him that he was going to Leeds. He gets paid by Sunderland and goes where he is told.

It is commonly stated that Leeds offered to pay Sunderland £15k a week towards his wages. This was money borrowed off Massimo Cellino who is now saying that he has been paying the debts and wages of the club for the last two months and has been humiliated during the transfer takeover and is considering walking away which could leave Leeds on the verge of administration. (This is printed in many newspapers today)

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Ha ha leeds should of sorted out thier defence instead of going for wickham just to get one over us. Serves em right!

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Just be patient I reckon once we mathematically safe that's when deal will be done, or at least that's what I've taken from mm interview. Stay positive and believe

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The post saying another feel good umou fom Milan is so fa fom truth its unreal. This type of rumour does not suit him at all. He likes to take the plaudits and enjoy publicity he would not want anyone stealing his thunder. It is well known talks are ongoing between Milan and probably 3 interested parties. One has been known to be making some progress. I have been told this by seval individuals but none actually know how far along the process they are.
One is a Qatar consortium, anothe involves US/Canadian interests.

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With reference to the Qatari take over, do not heed this. They tried last year to take over Queen of the South, a poor, cash wise, neighbour in Scottish Football, and they could not either come up with the required cash, not much, thought to be about half a million, nor the management structure to advance the club. Queens have since been nearly out of business, but to their credit re-structured things and have brought about profits. These Qataris have touted themselves around a number of clubs with no success so probably we are better off without them. I can see the future being bright for us but we will have to be behind the team and the management and not have petty squabbles amongst ourselves. Remember one thing M. M. will not sell the club to anyone who will not be giving him a huge profit and with the cash to keep us and him going into the future with cash in hand/pocket. So let's wait a while till it is all sorted out properly.

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07 Mar 2014 11:32:20
Madine to play 45 mins tomorrow

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45mins TODAY - Friday, for U21s NOT tomorrow.

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Ye that's what I meant

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Anyone know ow Madine played in under 21s game today

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1-1 who scored though?

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Madine and prutton both played 45 mins, Simon Hanna scored for the owls

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1 shot on target, headless chickens

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Wow, yeah, we don't need wickham or fryatt when we have madine.

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Whether Madines good enough or not can hardly judge him yet.
If Wickham or Fryatt hadn't played for more than 3 months would they be any better?
Like all players they should be judged on their first team performances over a period of time, and not just 1/2 hour here and there.
Thought our fans would have learned from last 12 months with likes of Lee, Maguire etc.

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We don't know if Madine is good enough or not, he was never given a chance by Dave Jones. Alan Biggs said in an article that Jones didn't rate Madine and told Madine so. Jones was also angry with Madine because he wanted him to go out on loan, Gary wouldn't go because he wanted fight for his place in the team. In consequence Madine started only 10 games and came on as a sub in 26 games last season. Most of the sub appearances lasted only for 15 mins at the end of the game. He also had a serious court case hanging over his head, although he only had himself to blame for that but it didn't help him. Footballers like most people thrive on confidence but if your boss doesn't show confidence in you then you will not thrive. Stu Gray has shown confidence in his players and up to now it is paying off, it won't make them into world beaters but it will get the best out of them. If Madine gets a proper run in the team we will know if he is good enough, until them get behind him and stop sniping at him. WAAWAW.

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10 Mar 2014 23:40:27
I wish I don't have to say that but I feel like the bubble has burst for us and I'm really afraid we will be going through a rough run from now to the end of the season. Sound pessimistic no I am not please but based on last few performances the players start to show a bit of complacency and lack of work ethics. I hope the team will prove me wrong. We will see! (NDS)

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Not like NDS to be so upbeat?
Do you think that losing the two centre midfielders, two LBs, CBs carrying injuries, etc
In all about a dozen injuries, not to mention four suspensions, in recent matches might have more to do with apparent drop in form than 'complacency' as you put it.
All this from what we all acknowledge is not the strongest squad in the division!
But why miss opportunity to have a go again eh?
Keep the blinkers on!

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Just concern mate that we are loosing it a bit. Do you know other teams have also had injuries and suspensions but still manage to pull out better results against us? SG is doing his best with this below par squad and had made them playing as a team BUT he needs help with few decent injections not the current loans which you may agree they are not that good, possibly we got them on the cheap. MM will you help the man please he is not a magician just a good coach (NDS)

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We can agree on your last post NDS, except we should all know the big £help£ ain't going to come from MM, it never was and it never will!
MM has a plan and he'll stick to it. He was only ever going to tread water, short term thinking, stabilise the business and sell on for a profit.
Good luck to him he deserves it - sooner the better now!
It'll be down to the new owners, when they do finally come in? to take us forward.

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04 Mar 2014 08:19:09
It's says in the Yorkshire post mm says we are miles away from a takeover'so much for the announcement this week.

Real owl

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You believe what you want to believe really, but the facts taken from MMs own statement speak for themselves IMO.
THIS story is not all fantasy?
Milan admits for the first time that there are "groups" interested?
He says they are "miles away", but we'd all say that if we were in his position and trying to get the best possible deal wouldn't we?
He says progress has been made difficult because of uncertainty over our Championship status.
No surprise then that this "leak" surfaces the day after we beat Midds and for the first time this season look to have half a foot in Champs for next season!
There is definitely some "jostling" for positions!
You can come to your own conclusions, but I'm too long in the tooth to accept what any businessman says as gospel without looking hard at his motivation for what he says saying!
Applies to all sides!

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Good post, very well balanced which makes a nice change.

N.B

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04 Mar 2014 13:41:54
Watched the chesterfield match last night and one player on show for Portsmouth was there number 11 a lad called Ricky Holmes what a game he had so come on Wednesday take a look at him he looks so good

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I have neve heard MM so angry. His ant also indicated it could jeopardise negotiations.
I was convinced afte I heard him there was some truth in rumours. he did not deny a Qatar group wee interested. It sounded to me as though he was annoyed somebody had let cat out of bag.
Yorks Post article said that Wednesday felt JH had jumped the gun. They have either read it same way as I did or they got that fom club.
The delay over giving Gray job, the signing of players on short tem contracts. further expansion of academy, suggests both a short and long term policy.
Watch this space an announceent will definitely happen before next season and probably much sooner.

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Uncertancy of champ status? We are pretty much safe now!

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Exactly, you said it yourself - pretty much safe!
Its still uncertain until its certain?
Thats what Milan was saying, the interested parties will be reluctant to commit to a deal until there is no chance of us slipping out of Champs!

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We are10/11 points clear of drop zone and I know we will drop points along the way but I still think there are at least 4 or 5 teams worse than us even if we drop points and start slipping back I believe the other teams will also so I'm sure we are safe!

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Not disagreeing, but do you feel sure enough to put £30m+ on the table that's what we are talking about!
It's extremely unlikely but NOT impossible!
No investor would move until we are deff safe!

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05 Mar 2014 19:43:38
Strange this feel good news comes the week they announce season ticket prices after a poor showing in cup?

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Those thinking this is t oost seaso ticket sales ae wide of mark. This rumour emerged and was put down officially on first day of sales. If MM wanted to sell tickets he would hype story up even more. Allan Biggs has for once witten decent article which sums up why leaks are not liked.

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Tough to call unless you have inside knowledge! I do think something could happen before next season but maybe we get carried away with hope! I do! Mm has never denied interest an tbh he has pretty much said sameas all othee takeover rumours as there is nothing close or tangible an he would tell us if there was. Agreed we cpuld be a bargain for the structures in place. But history an fanbase doesn't mean anything anymore money comes from other revenues now! Until milan comes forward an says were close or something is happenin. Ill keep my feet on ground an be happy when safety is achieved!

Uto's
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Owls is plural. No need for an apostrophe
UTO

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04 Mar 2014 07:55:51
I'm still waiting for the Press Conference. Don't believe the Take Over feel good rumors because when you realize no take over is actually happening you will simply go back to being miserable again. That's why MM's leaks are known as FGR, Feel Good Rumors.

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Rumours don't come from MM they come from rumourmongers who either want to get their name in the news as Jonathan Hope has done or they are people who have their own agenda and want to cause unrest and knock MM. So don't blame MM for the rumours.

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Don't fall for the FGR's. Pompey Dave.

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We don't fall for MM's FGR's. We all know it's what he does. Only the people living on cloud cuckoo land or people that live in hope fall for them.

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05 Mar 2014 11:08:59
Get a grip guys, championship football is good for us now, stabilise for a couple or three seasons the last thing we want is up and straight down because unless there is unlimited money that's what could happen even teams that have been premier teams for some time find it difficult, so grow up be careful what you wish for

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06 Mar 2014 01:29:16
What is there to disagree with!

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Milans FGR's.

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04 Mar 2014 06:26:20
As someone said don't believe that hope guy bout the takeover. Read today's star and mandaric has rubbished his claims at tryin to destabilise the club, stil mandaric has investors interested but any sort of deal is miles away

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Manadaric said had no inteest of buying club and became owner next day. When he sold leiceste denied any connection with Thai businessman sold club to them within a month.
He was too angry for it just to be complete rubbish. Listen caefully to his statement.

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02 Mar 2014 21:23:42
just looked on paul walkers twitter and it says nothing as changed on the take over front.

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He got to put that if mm is selling will keep the cards close to his chest bet radio sheff will be 1 of the last to be told remember when mm ad a right got at them for asking stupid Questions

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Radio sheffield will have phoned swfc on a Sunday night and reached tony the security guard lol

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None of the takeover stories have come from MM, the only thing he has said is that he is looking for investment into the club and has issued statements at the appropriate times. If there is a takeover in the offing MM will not comment until it is signed sealed and delivered. He is a successful businessman and that is how successful businessmen conduct themselves. So if Paul Walker phoned Sheffield Wednesday yesterday he will have got a noncommittal reply.

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No takeover. Please stop believing these feel good rumours. They are leaked every now and then just to perk us up and disguise the clubs failings. MM and his team are known for this and he's done it at every club he's been involved with.

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Currently the club isn't failing though

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I'll say again the rumours don't come from MM. The current rumour was started by a football agent who according to another poster has history of doing this. A Leicester fan has complimented MM saying that he will only sell the club to someone with the clubs interests at heart. So get off his back and support the whole club.

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So in conclusion, is the supposered take over real or made up my the tabloids and random agents? uto xxx

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Don't know but if it happens (I've got everything crossed) it'll be best news I've heard as an owl since we signed waddle. UP THE OWLS

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Ask yourself this. If you had a consortium of people with you and you was looking to purchase a club in England and throw a load of money at it would you go for Sheffield Wednesday? Of course not you'd go for a more glamorous club or a London club. This isn't me insulting Sheff Weds because I think they're a fantastic club and I hope they do really well and possibly make the playoffs. I'm simply being realistic. Mr Mandric as been trying to off load the club for about 2 years but still he is the owner. That alone tells you something.

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More glamorous club I'm not being funny but how many clubs can you buy with a fan base and history like ours for what mandoric wants none
Outside the prem there is 2 clubs in championship with history like ours forest and weeds so previous post needs to look at the facts with right investment swfc are a MASSIVE club and I guarantee if and when they ever get back to premier league hillsborough will be sold out every home game fact

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Mandoric has said he won't just sell us to any one Leeds new owners wanted us before them but failed to satisfy mandorics policy so there has been plenty of interest in a massive potential that is swfc

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I'm a true Wednesday fan but to compare our History to that of Notts Forest and Leeds is a little off the mark. Leeds have in recent years been in the champions league semi final under David O'leary and Notts Forest twice won the European cup in believe 1979 and 1980 under Brian Clough. Yes other than Leeds we probably are the second biggest club in Yorkshire but to say that only Leeds and Forest are are bigger than us is way off. What about QPR? Reading? Birmingham? Derby? Blackburn? Wolves? All clubs with a better history than us and in some cases recent history. Even Coventry in league one have a better history.

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I doubt there is a better Championship Club available to buy than Sheffield Wednesday we've got a huge Stadium a massive following and a very good history with the right owners Sky's the limit look at what Southampton and Swansea have done in just a few years.

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Our history IS better than forest and Leeds yes forest won 2 European cups and Leeds been semi final and recent history is better but swfc is the most successful club in Yorkshire and won the league 4 times so is in the same class as Leeds and Forest and we own our ground not like Leeds and saying clubs like Coventry and qpr reading and rest have better history is laughable u need to take your head for a wobble!

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Coventry 1 fa cup qpr 1 league cup reading 1 cup Birmingham 2 league cups swfc 4 league 3 fa 1 league cup 1 charity shield I can see they have more history than us not even if u add em up together swfc are a HUGE prospect with great potential and there won't b many clubs whose only losses this year are 3.9 mill like ours

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02 Mar 2014 14:08:28
take over could be announced this week according to the report on ssn! uto

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WHOA! Come on lads I want rich investor as much as the next man but take a look at this guys track record.
He has been involved in investments everywhere and most have failed.
He was even involved in a joke deal with Justin Bieber!!.
Keep your fingers crossed but don't risk the mortgage.

superslick45

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01 Mar 2014 10:41:31
As I fell foul of the rumour police again last time because of how I phrased a rumour I had heard about Madine, I phrased it how I normally write but some people said I had stated a fact and made it look like I was in the know when I don't think I did. I forgot that there was an unwritten rule that I had to put at the start of my post, just like everyone else on this board does, that my post is a rumour and that I am not in the know and I have no relations or friends that work for SWFC or any other club so that there is no confusion as to what I am posting on a rumours board. Is that good enough for everyone, have I made it clear enough for everyone that what follows is a rumour?
Anyway onto the rumour, it sort of follows on from what has been posted already about Fryatt, I have heard that while he can't sign a pre-contract agreement till 30 days before the end of his current deal as stated by the Ed, he has however made it clear that we are his prefered club and will sign the agreement when he can which is something he can do.

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Can you clarify if this is a rumour or not? (lol)
To be fair mate I don't think you said anything wrong last time round.
Perhaps using the words "pre contract agreement" did it (?) because those words refer to a standard "form of FL contract".
However as I said in response to your last post, lots of clubs, players & agents reach - "an arrangement to be completed at some time in the future" - all the time!
There will be dozens and dozens in place as we speak, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. The only difference is they are not underwritten, protected by the FL, so obviously all parties have some opportunity to change their mind, depending on what's been agreed obviously.

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I didn't write the previous Fryatt post mine was a couple of days ago about Madine possibly getting some loan time away from the club.

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Sorry my mistake, but still valid I think.

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27 Feb 2014 20:40:11
Heard on good authority that matty fryatt has or is about to sign a pre contract agreement with us.

{Ed003's Note - Can only sign a pre contract with an English club in the last 30 days of his contract.}

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Well said ed. One of our many fans with 'inside knowledge'we must Av more moles than a park

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Not taking one side or the other and this story may well be pure fantasy, but there are many ways to "secure an understanding" other than a "formal pre-contract agreement".
Its been done many times in the past
In fact the rumours are that Leeds have negotiated some form of a "contract option" with Wickham and Sunderland at the end of the season, which may also be fantasy?

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With six months or less remaining on an existing contract for players aged 23 or older, they are free to negotiate with other clubs and sign a pre-contract agreement, indicating their ability to move to their intended club on a Bosman transfer once the next transfer window opens. Really Ed 30 days!

{Ed003's Note - Yes 30 days to another English club and six months to a club from a different affiliation......Really lol }

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Heard on good authority, come on was it gate man.

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It was from connor wickham who said he loved and wants to stay with us and then left to leeds lol owls about that!

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The kid Stewart has signed a pre contract ageement with Leeds United!

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This one has legs. My mum's neighbour has a son who works in the ticket office and they say they saw someone who looked like Matty Fryatt's agent getting out of a Range Rover on Tuesday and taking a back exit into the side of the club store just in case any media were watching.

{Ed003's Note - The plot thickens.}

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That was richard bransons employee in the landrover. Apparently rb and mm were in a meeting and there was no biscuits. Wonder what the meeting was about?

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RB in a meeting with no biscuits?! Can't be true, its well known fact he carries a packet of hobnobs in his duffelcoat just in case ;-)

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27 Feb 2014 07:11:58
FACT:- by the time Swfc and MM realised that wickham was available his agent informed us a deal had already been done with Leeds. Nothing to do with the player choosing them over us etc. Leeds chanced their hand and got in there 1st. Nothing unusual about us missing out on a target we will get over it and maybe it's time for Madine to live up to his potential.

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Same old Wednesday missing out on a player you get used to it by now

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Same old Wednesday got loovens and big American cb I can't be bothered to attempt a spelling at signed until end of season.

Good things have happened at hills borough too.

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Absolute nonsense. Sunderland are well aware of our interest so no reason to do a deal behind our backs unless there are other issues unconnected with us. Never trust a post that starts with the word Fact!

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Poyet has leeds connections and they could probably pay more of his wages. We'll just move on. This seasons over now anyways were stoping up and are now out of FA cup. Think its time to give our contracted players a game and leave the loans players on bench.

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Poyet - Thanks for a reasonable and realistic post, a slice of common sense
Footballs a business, and business is about money, and that's all its about usually.
Connor Wickham was never going to be anything other than a loan player for us, but some of our fans couldn't resist putting his picture on there bedroom walls next to Ben Marshall.
I wouldn't mind if they were Ronaldo, Bale or Messi, but they are little better than ordinary players at this level.

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I put "FACT" because in a interview MM went on record saying we missed out on wickham and was informed of the deal by wickhams agent. Straight from the horses mouth.

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Just a query, COULD we have signed Wickham along with all the other loanees on our books?
Is there a limit?
Also, £££ already budgeted for loan players may have already been taken (Gardner, Best, Hitchinson etc)
Just thinking out loud!

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You put FACT and then twist what MM said to suit your interpretation. MM and Stuart Gray have both said they were in constant conversations with Gus Poyet and lots of people at Sunderland about the availability of Wickham. If MM and SG are telling the truth and I have no reason to doubt them and the first indication that Wickham was going to Leeds was went his agent told MM them something else has gone on behind their backs. Poyet has said in the past that McDermot is a friend of his and he does have Leeds connections. Gray sounded very unhappy about losing out on Wickham in the way that we have. Best was brought into the club for a month because Gray was told that Wickham would be avalible when Fletcher was fit.

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So now the wisdom is that Poyet & MacD decide between them to do a secret deal and spirit CW to Leeds in the middle of the night without telling anybody at S6 - oh and CW said OK?
The truth is that CW, like all these overpaid footballers went exactly where he wanted to go! He wouldn't do anything else would he?
He instructed his agent to set up the deal.
There is no conspiracy theory, he's told us himself if you bother to read his interview!

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Last player on loan to us and thn Leeds was Barkley. Barkley was a failure at Leeds Ido Not expect Wickham to do well at Leeds. Lot of off field shenanigins and do not think Whickham thrives in this sort of atmosphere.
Clear he was expected back at Wednesday ut when we took est for a month that was using money iintended for Whickham we could not react as money had already gone. Whickham desperate to get awayafter eing left out of squad previous weekend. Went to first decent opportunity, think easy to nderstand and no reason for anyone to spit out dummy. t will not take him long to realise what Leedsis like.

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26 Feb 2014 14:26:43
end of! Connor wickham has gone to leeds! uto xxx

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This is a disaster and shows the lack of forward thinking for our beloved club. Leeds are only 7 points ahead of us but have taken him on loan with chance to buy reportedly for only 3 million with SAFC taking a 5 million loss. We should have taken the lead and Whickham should be our player. MM you should be photographed.

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Thats got to hurt Owls. LUFC!

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Typical swfc! Pissing about and not making decisions on players. Lita, fryatt, wickham all should have been at s6. This proves we are nothing more than a bottom half champ side with no intention of success or going forward! 1 word, POINTLESS!

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Good luck to connor and it doesn't hurt as much as when we smashed you all over in the 6-0 derby! lol uto xxx

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NO! We were in for him apparently and he chose them over us. UNBELIEVABLE! He'll NEVER be welcome back at Hillsborough again! DISGUSTED!

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26 Feb 2014 15:46:16
Was it Madine or Wckham, in cheapest option shoot out.

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Not even close as the drubbin we gave u Leeds at hillsborough remember 6-0 ring any nightmares for u

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Yep - it hurts. LUC in takeover talks with some allegedly corrupt Italian who the FL don't want so it's to be hoped for the sake of LU fans that it occurs because rumours are suggesting that the poverty stricken arabs that curently own that Club are out of cash after mid march so how they will pay wages let alone a 3m fee for CW is a big gamble.

wakey owl

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Nope had forgotten about that drubbing actually, but doesn't change the current league table, CW chose wisely. And yeah I hope it goes through as well, then we'll be moving on up.

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At least we've got nuhui and madine.

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It is disappointing that Connor has gone to L***s but we have been doing well since he left. There in no point blaming Milan for this, do you really think that we can afford £3m for 1 player. Let's concentrate on the rest of the season and hope investment does come so that in future we can afford players of this quality and eventually get this MASSIVE club back where it belongs.

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Forget him, obviously not a true OWL and let's see just how he does with Leeds.

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Let him off. he is way over-rated anyway. if he was any good he would be in sunderland starting 11.

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Wickham did well for us but fact of the matter is he isn't a owls player so he's free to go where he and his parent club choose. We already have too many loan signings to accommodate due to league rules so we don't need any more and also got madine back. Whether or not the players are as good as CW its not really feasible to have another loan signing. So let's grow up, stop blaming MM and get on with supporting the team. If Sunderland have let CW go out on loan at the time we needed a striker we would have him now but they didn't let him that's not MMs fault! UTO

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He must have had his drink spiked when talking to them, picking them just don't make sense, if there was a lot of clubs after him. QPR I heard were in for him

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I knew it would b the ben marshall saga again. Is like repeat posts we just change the name each season.

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CW did play well for owls, he fitted in to our style of play, but that dosent mean he will fit in at leeds. How many great strikers have we seen go to clubs and do nothing, because they just didn't fit into that team. So beware leeds its too early to start talking about shooting up the league table, and while you're at it just take a peek over your shoulder there's a team in blue and white catching you up UTO

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So if i'm right, that means we are still after someone. any clues anyone?

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27 Feb 2014 19:18:17
Because this is a rumour page, I heard from my friend who is an owl, and I don't know what his source is but apparently we're looking into getting Ben Marshall back and sign Micheal Chopra from Blackpool instead of Afobe. I hope this is true Ben Marshall was like my idol when he was with us! WAWAW!

TrueOwl.

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