06 Aug 2014 17:23:22
Can confirm that we will sighn Stevie May and Ben marshal in the coming days however takeover is pretty much dead as hafiz has strugled to liquidate his assets to buy us but takeover situation could change and hopefully it does soon. UTO


1.) 06 Aug 2014
If HM was struggling to get the cash together we would have heard by now as the FL would have kicked the takeover out by now for lack of proof of funds. That is one of the first steps of a takeover. That is the main reason why the Doncaster takeover failed so quick.


2.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 01:06:22
Was told about hm on monday and may and marshall on Tuesday morning before ma bid from forrest so maybe things will have changed for hm in Azerbaijan but the reason the deal hadnt gone through is because hm hadnt paid mm also mm took around 100k of the ma fee


3.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 08:13:02
May and Tardieu will arrive. No real evidence that Marshall is on way, lots of rumours but largely from poor sources.

Only issue with takeover is ratification of Mammadov, this is to do with proof of income.
Problems in Lens are to do with split ownership, Martel owns 49% of club and wants to retain this holding but wants Mammadov to keep pouring money in. Martel just wants to spend and gives wrong pression to French authorities.
To those who do not follow above point. Normally when a person puts capital in extra shares are issued to them increasing proportion of club they own. Martel wants more money but does not want to lose his holding of club.
Martel is that useless its a wonder he was not director of Wednesdayite.


4.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 09:16:50
Who was the striker SG was expecting to hear from Monday or Tuesday morning.


5.) 07 Aug 2014
Frankel - your point about Martel is well made. I posted on here a few weeks ago about the way that Martel had dealt with both HM and the French Lge, and the fall out for Lens was almost inevitable.
The French "popular" press, led by one journo in particular, were posting about money that HM hadn't paid because that was the story that Martel had fed them.
In actual fact HM had paid his promised 38m and the expectation was that Martels camp would pay the other 10m, but Martel stupidly tried to screw HM, and the French Lge then got involved because of the apparent budget shortfall.
Martel and HM met in London 2-3 weeks ago to sort things out for the purposes of the appeal, and they have a "working" relationship but it is clear that one of them won't be at Lens much longer. The Lens fans would have rid of Martel tmrw, it was him who took them to the brink of bankruptcy a few years ago.
All the facts have been available in the quality French media but all that gets reported over here, and repeated on this site, are the gutter press reports about HMs financial affairs.
HM has shedloads of money, he might have problems explaining where it came from and where it is held or invested, but that would be true also of the many Russian oligarchs who own some of the biggest clubs around the world and who would have the same problems if they had been required to pass the FL test when they bought in to their various clubs.


6.) 07 Aug 2014
Best announced he was going to Derby on Monday? Perhaps?
Or perhaps Stevie May was deciding over the weekend whether to stay and play one more game for St Johnstone in Europe tonight, or decide to come to us immediately on mon/ tues?
Don't think we will find out now South.


7.) 07 Aug 2014
The deals never been put to the FL as NO monies have been paid to MM


8.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 10:35:05
No striker was ever deciding on Monday? Gray said he was waiting for the green light and should find out Monday or Tuesday, that's off MM not the striker!


9.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 12:36:06
Howler
Good morning.
People who have shed loads of money available to spend, would not be doing this. People who really have shed loads of money to spend pay twice the amount on one player, than we are asking for the football club and its assets. I sincerely hope I am totally wrong. I do not want to be associated with the gutter press, I do not obtain my information from the gutter press as you are aware, but from independent articles, I therefore find it unfortunate to suggest you feel the same way as yourself, or you are subjected to this type of remark. The first half of your post regarding RC Lens I thought was very thoughtful.

Just one final point I went on the Forest site yesterday, a much calmer site, people having their say without the humiliation when daring to speak their mind.


10.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 12:42:17
The striker that SG was referring to was Simon Cox who was part of the Antonio deal. Cox wanted to move South so he has joined Reading. The Antonio/Cox deal would have gone through Monday or Tuesday if Cox hadn't changed his mind. This is according to Cox after joining Reading.


11.) 07 Aug 2014
Teat - The FL have already studied the takeover, made observations, and asked for further info/clarification. that's all in the public domain.
As for the money, the money will not be paid to MM directly until the deal is finalised. That is common practice, like when you buy a house!
The money is lodged with a 3rd party, usually an independent legal/financial organisation until the final day.
But that money will be there because that is obviously one of the first steps -"show us your money".
If HM hadn't lodged the money, the deal would have been dead in the water a month ago!


12.) 07 Aug 2014
South


13.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 13:38:53
Yes South, Reading is much further South than Sheffield. SG and The Star have since confirmed what I posted earlier.


14.) 07 Aug 2014
South -
Good afternoon.
My reference to the gutter press is accurate and factual. HM has even threatened legal action against THE particular French journalist who is responsible for the majority of the rubbish.
I should add that I lived in France for nearly 12yrs and still follow the news, obviously since HM became linked with us I have kept a close watch on the Lens connection.
The Mammadov story in France is exactly the opposite to that perpetuated over here. Over there Martel is the villain, and HM is the saviour of RCLens.
My comment about shedloads of money is also "accurate", I used the term shedloads because how do you quantify?
HM is, as you are probably aware backed by the Azerbaijani Govt to sell the country through popular culture, particularly sport - not just football.
Thats what frustrates me by suggestions that he hasn't got the money, its almost laughable, the only problem is satisfying the sports authorities.
In answer to your final point, I only post accurately supported by facts, when it is my own opinion I usually add - IMO.
There is no intention to humiliate anyone.
But if somebody puts stuff in the public domain which is totally inaccurate, not factual, and some of it frankly libellous, I will contribute where I can to try to correct the record.


15.) 07 Aug 2014
HOWLer in reply

Hi mate, I don't know what you know.

See below, "-" copied from Alan Biggs report in the Sheffiled Star, he obviously has seen no proof of any money being paid and that the FL delay is a 'RED HERRING' and the money is the problem - so a long way to go before any take over can be ratified, he does go on to say it could still happen and quickly but!!!

"Cash on the table, that is. Wednesday have seen it for a player but evidently not, it’s believed, for the club.

From my enquiries, the Football League ratification issue is something of a red herring. All the contracts can be signed on a deal, as they have been for some time on the takeover, but in the end it’s about the money that seals it.

In this case, some £40m. "


16.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 17:42:08
Derbyshire

Thanks for that


17.) 07 Aug 2014
07 Aug 2014 17:43:33
Is that "Alan Biggs" that has not seen any proof of money. If it is why on earth would they have to show Biggs the money. Never forget that Biggs is a journalist and as a famous newspaper owner once said never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Biggs is in the business of selling column inches the controversial the better. Moreover Biggs has never been fan of SWFC so if he can spread dissent so much the better. Let's wait and what happens.


18.) 07 Aug 2014
Hi Teat -
Yes I read that, but with the greatest respect to Alan Biggs, he probably knows as much as you and I, that is - as much as we are told!
Why would he have seen any proof of the money having been paid? The only people that will see that are MM and his advisors.
Neither does he have a column in the Financial Times, nor is he an authority on high capital business transactions I suggest?
So rather than write what he did, which adds nothing of any value to the debate, I wish he, like the rest of us would just be patient and wait for an Official announcement from MM.
At the end of the day whether the deal is completed or it stumbles at one of the hurdles, there is little that we as fans, or Alan Biggs, can affect.
Like most things in life its them with the money that hold all the aces.


19.) 10 Aug 2014
10 Aug 2014 08:31:44
The Star have always had a 'soft' utd bias, since Tony pritcsrds days, I note on their Green In app they have put in a Sheffield United Championship preview, not league 1, so take what their journos say with a pinch of salt. bring back Paul Thompson